Lesson 79 · B2
J7a and the braying donkey
“You'd believe the donkey over me?” J7a, the trickster of every North African tale, loses an argument to his own donkey and still tries to win it. Darija irony is less understated than English: questions that aren't questions, praise that's a telling-off.
- Recognise a rhetorical question.
- Exclaim with ashmen and sh7al.
- Use yak and z3ma with intent.
- Answer irony without taking it literally.
Twenty-four words
The first family is the irony toolkit. The rest, humour and the tale.
Irony toolkit
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وَاشْ أَنَا…؟
wash ana…?
am I…?
A question that denies.
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يَاكْ؟
yak?
right?; didn't you…?
Tag, often mocking.
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أَشْمَنْ…!
ashmen…!
what a…!
+ noun.
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شْحَالْ…!
sh7al…!
how…!
+ adjective.
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بْرَاڤُو عْلِيكْ
bravo 3lik
well done
Nearly always ironic.
- مْلْيُونْ مَرَّة melyun merra a million times
Laughing and mocking
- ضْحَكْ عْلَى de7k 3la to laugh at
- تْفْلَّى عْلَى tfella 3la to make fun of
- النّْكْتَة n-nekta joke
- الضّْحْكْ d-de7k laughter
- كَيْقْشّْبْ kayqesheb to joke; kid
- بْالْمْعَقُولْ b l-m3aqul seriously
The tale
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جْحَا
J7a
J7a
North Africa's Nasreddin.
- الْحْمَارْ l-7mar donkey
- نْهَقْ nheq to bray
- سْلَّفْ sellef to lend
- الْجَّارْ j-jar neighbour
- صْدّْقْ seddeq to believe (someone)
Clever and stupid
- الْكْذُوبْ l-kdub liar
- الْحِيلَة l-7ila trick; cunning
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بْهِيمْ
bhim
dim; idiot
Mild insult.
- قَافْزْ qafez sharp; clever
Tags
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زْعْمَا
z3ma
supposedly; yeah, right
Marks disbelief.
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آ سِيدِي
a sidi
my dear sir
With an edge.
Saying the opposite
Four lines from the tale. None means what it says. What does each mean?
- كَتْصَدّْقْ الْحْمَارْ وْ مَا كَتْصَدّْقْنِيشْ أَنَا؟katseddeq l-7mar u ma-katseddeqnish ana?
- يَاكْ قُلْتِي الْحْمَارْ مَاشِي هْنَا؟yak qulti l-7mar mashi hna?
- أَشْمَنْ جَارْ عَنْدِي!ashmen jar 3ndi!
- بْرَاڤُو عْلِيكْ آ جْحَا، زْعْمَا الْحْمَارْ كَيْكْذَبْbravo 3lik a J7a, z3ma l-7mar kaykdeb
Does line 1 want an answer? Is bravo 3lik in line 4 praise? What does z3ma add?
The rule
Rhetorical question with wash: it asserts the opposite. wash ana 7mar? = “I'm not stupid”.
Exclamations: ashmen + noun (ashmen nhar!, “what a day!”), sh7al + adjective (sh7al zwin!). Sincere or ironic: context decides.
yak? asks for confirmation and, with an edge, catches someone out: yak qulti ghadi tji?, “didn't you say you'd come?”.
z3ma: “supposedly”, “yeah, right”. Signals disbelief.
Mock praise: bravo 3lik, tbarek llah 3lik after a disaster.
Exaggeration: melyun merra.
Irony in sentences
| Form | Say it | Means |
|---|---|---|
| وَاشْ أَنَا حْمَارْ؟ | wash ana 7mar? | do you take me for an idiot? |
| يَاكْ قُلْتِي غَادِي تْجِي؟ | yak qulti ghadi tji? | didn't you say you'd come? |
| أَشْمَنْ نْهَارْ! | ashmen nhar! | what a day! |
| شْحَالْ زْوِينْ هَادْ الطّْقْسْ! | sh7al zwin had t-teqs! | lovely weather! (in the rain) |
| بْرَاڤُو عْلِيكْ، كْسْرْتِيهَا | bravo 3lik, kserteha | well done, you've broken it |
| قُلْتْهَا لِيكْ مْلْيُونْ مَرَّة | qultha lik melyun merra | I've told you a million times |
| زْعْمَا نْتَا اللِّي كَتْعْرَفْ | z3ma nta lli kat3ref | oh sure, you're the expert |
| شْكُونْ قَالْ لِيكْ أَنَا مَاشِي فَاهْمْ؟ | shkun qal lik ana mashi fahem? | who told you I don't get it? |
None of the eight is meant literally.
What English gives you, and what it costs
Free: “lovely weather” in a downpour, “well done” after a disaster: same tricks.
Free: “yeah, right” = z3ma.
Costly: understatement. English irony often whispers; Darija's is louder and more exclamatory. A deadpan English aside may not land.
Your mistake, not someone else's
In a new language you take everything literally. You don't answer “yes” to a rhetorical question.
×— وَاشْ أَنَا حْمَارْ؟ — إِيهْAnswering yes to a rhetorical question.
✓— وَاشْ أَنَا حْمَارْ؟ — لَا، سْمْحْ لِيَّا“No, sorry”.
When in doubt, a smile and hhh, 3ndek l-7eqq will get you out of most things.
J7a and the donkey
A traditional J7a tale, told across North Africa and the Middle East with Nasreddin or Djeha. Darija version for this lesson. Find every line that doesn't mean what it says.
وَاحْدْ النّْهَارْ جَا الْجَّارْ عَنْدْ جْحَا، وْ قَالْ لِيهْ: «عَافَاكْ آ جْحَا، سْلّْفْنِي الْحْمَارْ دْيَالْكْ، عَنْدِي شِي شْغُلْ فْالسُّوقْ».
جْحَا مَا كَانْشْ بَاغِي يْسْلّْفُو. قَالْ لِيهْ: «آهْ آ خُويَا، كُونْ غِيرْ جِيتِي الْبَارَحْ! الْحْمَارْ مَاشِي هْنَا، دَّاهْ وْلْدِي لْلْعْرُوبِيَّة».
فْدَاكْ السَّاعَة، الْحْمَارْ نْهَقْ فْالْكُورِي: «هَاااااااقْ!»
الْجَّارْ شَافْ فْجْحَا وْ قَالْ لِيهْ: «يَاكْ قُلْتِي الْحْمَارْ مَاشِي هْنَا؟ أَشْمَنْ كْذُوبْ!»
جْحَا تْقَلّْقْ، وْ قَالْ لِيهْ: «بْرَاڤُو عْلِيكْ! شْحَالْ هَادِي وْ حْنَا جِيرَانْ، وْ دَابَا كَتْصَدّْقْ الْحْمَارْ وْ مَا كَتْصَدّْقْنِيشْ أَنَا؟ وَاشْ الْحْمَارْ عَنْدُو اللّْحْيَة؟»
Cuento tradicional de Yḥa (Djeha, Nasreddín), tradición oral del Magreb y de Oriente. Versión en darija de Learning Darija · dominio público
Did you follow?
What does the neighbour ask?
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To borrow the donkey to go to market.
What's J7a's excuse?
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The donkey isn't there: his son took it to the countryside.
What gives him away?
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The donkey brays in the stable.
How does J7a defend himself?
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He scolds the neighbour for believing the donkey over him.
Check
Two here, three more in the B2 book.
Exercises 1 and 2 are here, with answers. Exercises 3 to 5 are in the B2 book, the PDF this site lives on: you can see the first item of each below.
1Ironic?
Is the sentence ironic in that situation?
- شْحَالْ زْوِينْ هَادْ الطّْقْسْ! (كَتْصُبّْ الشْتَا) It's ironic.
- شْكْرًا بْزَّافْ عْلَى الْكَادُو It's ironic.
- بْرَاڤُو عْلِيكْ، كْسْرْتِي الْكَاسْ It's ironic.
- وَاشْ نْتَا بْخِيرْ؟ It's ironic.
2Fill the gap
With the irony piece that fits.
واشياكأشمنمليون
- ___ أنا بهيم؟ فاهم كلشي
- ___ قلتي غادي تجي بكري؟
- ___ زحام! ساعة فالطريق
- قلتها ليك ___ مرة
3Answer right
Choose the reply to: 1) “wash ana 7mar?”; 2) “yak qulti ghadi tji f l-weqt?”; 3) “ashmen teqs!”, in a downpour.
- لَا، حَاشَاكْ
- إِيهْ، نْتَا حْمَارْ
- مَا عْرْفْتْشْ
4Add an edge
Rewrite with the piece in brackets.
- مَا شِي أَنَا بْهِيمْ (وَاشْ)
5Your scene
Write a six-line dialogue where someone arrives late and the other replies ironically.
يَاكْوَاشْ…؟أَشْمَنْبْرَاڤُو عْلِيكْزْعْمَا
The rest is in the B2 book
The B2 bookShow answers
| 1. Ironic? | 1-True, 2-False, 3-True, 4-False |
|---|---|
| 2. Fill the gap | واش · ياك · أشمن · مليون |
The B2 book: In preparation
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I can now
- Recognise a rhetorical wash question.
- Exclaim with ashmen and sh7al.
- Use yak and z3ma.
- Not take irony literally.